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		By: Ron Sutton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Sutton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2023 03:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-21&quot;&gt;Georges Haddad&lt;/a&gt;.

My understanding is that Duke no longer provides the mercury vapor lights. We ended up with the one LED light when the old light failed and no replacements were available.

By the way, please notice the new &quot;add me to your mailing list&quot; option below the comment form. I&#039;ll be adding this elsewhere on the website in the future, and hope everyone opts in to provide us with another means of keeping you informed of what&#039;s happening in our community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-21">Georges Haddad</a>.</p>
<p>My understanding is that Duke no longer provides the mercury vapor lights. We ended up with the one LED light when the old light failed and no replacements were available.</p>
<p>By the way, please notice the new &#8220;add me to your mailing list&#8221; option below the comment form. I&#8217;ll be adding this elsewhere on the website in the future, and hope everyone opts in to provide us with another means of keeping you informed of what&#8217;s happening in our community.</p>
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		By: Georges Haddad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georges Haddad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 23:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-12&quot;&gt;Nancy Panzke&lt;/a&gt;.

Many thanks for your comment, Nancy.

It is disappointing that you did not receive feedback from J.R. 

The Colonial Open LED light that I am proposing in the poll is much much better than the LED Acorn you have in front of your door.  It does not require a shield since they are dark sky and light downward instead in a lateral manner, as is the case now.  Once we change to the Colonial LED (open is my preference), you issue will be solved. 

Meanwhile, I suggest that you go the Duke Energy website and ask for a change from the Acorn LED back to Vapor.  It will be temporary vapor until Duke Energy changes all the light to LED.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-12">Nancy Panzke</a>.</p>
<p>Many thanks for your comment, Nancy.</p>
<p>It is disappointing that you did not receive feedback from J.R. </p>
<p>The Colonial Open LED light that I am proposing in the poll is much much better than the LED Acorn you have in front of your door.  It does not require a shield since they are dark sky and light downward instead in a lateral manner, as is the case now.  Once we change to the Colonial LED (open is my preference), you issue will be solved. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, I suggest that you go the Duke Energy website and ask for a change from the Acorn LED back to Vapor.  It will be temporary vapor until Duke Energy changes all the light to LED.</p>
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		By: Georges Haddad		</title>
		<link>https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-20</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georges Haddad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 23:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-17&quot;&gt;John Legg&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s correct, John. 
Appreciate your participation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-17">John Legg</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s correct, John.<br />
Appreciate your participation.</p>
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		By: Georges Haddad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georges Haddad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 22:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-16&quot;&gt;Ray Lizardi&lt;/a&gt;.

Many thanks Ray for your feedback. 

As I explained in my previous replies (see below), there is no cost for P4 residents.  Duke Energy is indeed eager to change streetlights to LED wherever it can.  P4 does not own those lights we only pay to light up in our streets. Besides, we will benefit from the energy saving, which will reduce our monthly electricity bill!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-16">Ray Lizardi</a>.</p>
<p>Many thanks Ray for your feedback. </p>
<p>As I explained in my previous replies (see below), there is no cost for P4 residents.  Duke Energy is indeed eager to change streetlights to LED wherever it can.  P4 does not own those lights we only pay to light up in our streets. Besides, we will benefit from the energy saving, which will reduce our monthly electricity bill!</p>
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		By: Georges Haddad		</title>
		<link>https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-18</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georges Haddad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 22:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-15&quot;&gt;Robin Brockmeyer&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Robin for your feedback.  Duke is covering the cost of changes and P4 residents benefit from the energy savings, as described above. 
The open have an advantage that they do hold dust and Duke Energy has the obligation to clean them without any charge, if any.  The open ones are the trend now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-15">Robin Brockmeyer</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Robin for your feedback.  Duke is covering the cost of changes and P4 residents benefit from the energy savings, as described above.<br />
The open have an advantage that they do hold dust and Duke Energy has the obligation to clean them without any charge, if any.  The open ones are the trend now.</p>
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		By: John Legg		</title>
		<link>https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-17</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Legg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 21:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[George, is it correct that we have one vote per home?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, is it correct that we have one vote per home?</p>
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		By: Ray Lizardi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Lizardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 16:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Before voting I will take a look at the existing LED lamp this evening.  Can the Board provide information on the cost of replacing these street lamps plus the cost of installation?  If this far outweighs the cost of maintaining the current lights, why are we placing this to vote?  I do agree that LED lights are more efficient, but its not just the cost of running the lamps the we need to consider.  The replacement and installation will likely be a large cost to incur.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before voting I will take a look at the existing LED lamp this evening.  Can the Board provide information on the cost of replacing these street lamps plus the cost of installation?  If this far outweighs the cost of maintaining the current lights, why are we placing this to vote?  I do agree that LED lights are more efficient, but its not just the cost of running the lamps the we need to consider.  The replacement and installation will likely be a large cost to incur.</p>
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		By: Robin Brockmeyer		</title>
		<link>https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-15</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin Brockmeyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2023 14:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would be fine eliminating the lights frankly, but if we need to keep them have Duke cover cost and they also benefit from the energy savings.  The frosted panel would look cleaner than the clear LED and require less cleaning????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be fine eliminating the lights frankly, but if we need to keep them have Duke cover cost and they also benefit from the energy savings.  The frosted panel would look cleaner than the clear LED and require less cleaning????</p>
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		By: Nancy Panzke		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nancy Panzke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2023 06:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-4&quot;&gt;Georges Haddad&lt;/a&gt;.

George, you probably know this already, but in case you don&#039;t, I complained to Duke Energy about how that new bulb and fixture were not in keeping with the rest of the lighting because the fixture is different and the white bulb is too bright.

I received a reponse from Duke on December 28 (see below) which I sent to J.R. (see below).  I didn&#039;t pursue this again because my husband was in intensive care at the time.  

December 28, 2022 - Automatic Transcript of voice mail from Duke Energy, which I forwarded to J.R. on December 30th:  &quot;Good morning. My name is Jasmine with Duke Energy. I work with the outdoor lighting team. This message is for Nancy. I&#039;m calling regarding a work order that I received regarding the the street light being to bright and I just wanted to give you some information. I do see that someone reported the light being out earlier this month to the streetlight repair team. There&#039;s only two things that they can replace to have the light remain that Amber yellowish color.  So that would be the actual bulb or the photo cell, which is the sensor. However, whenever the light requires more than that, then the entire fixture or the head gets replaced. And that&#039;s when the LED version comes in, which we only now carry LED. And also we do offer shields at one time cost to the customer, in this case that would be your homeowners association. So I would suggest reaching out to them. Any official request will need to be made on their lighting account and by someone listed on the HOA board or something. Any further question, please contact customer service at 1-800-700 8744. Thank you so much, and you have a great day, bye-bye.&quot;

January 2, 2023, response from J.R. via e-mail: 
&quot;Hello Nancy, 
I’m still on vacation until tomorrow, but your question intrigued me, so I thought to answer to the best of my ability.
Technology for lighting moves on, and LEDs are cost saving for the amount of power they consume over older lighting elements.  As more of your lights go out and replaced with LEDs, it seems like just a matter of time before they all are changed.
All that said, the board would need to vote to extend additional funds for any ‘add-ons’ as described in the reply from Duke Energy.   I’ll need to contact them about this to determine the cost involved.
Happy New Year,
J.R.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://liveoakestateshoa.com/association-news/polls/phase-iv-street-light-replacement-poll/#comment-4">Georges Haddad</a>.</p>
<p>George, you probably know this already, but in case you don&#8217;t, I complained to Duke Energy about how that new bulb and fixture were not in keeping with the rest of the lighting because the fixture is different and the white bulb is too bright.</p>
<p>I received a reponse from Duke on December 28 (see below) which I sent to J.R. (see below).  I didn&#8217;t pursue this again because my husband was in intensive care at the time.  </p>
<p>December 28, 2022 &#8211; Automatic Transcript of voice mail from Duke Energy, which I forwarded to J.R. on December 30th:  &#8220;Good morning. My name is Jasmine with Duke Energy. I work with the outdoor lighting team. This message is for Nancy. I&#8217;m calling regarding a work order that I received regarding the the street light being to bright and I just wanted to give you some information. I do see that someone reported the light being out earlier this month to the streetlight repair team. There&#8217;s only two things that they can replace to have the light remain that Amber yellowish color.  So that would be the actual bulb or the photo cell, which is the sensor. However, whenever the light requires more than that, then the entire fixture or the head gets replaced. And that&#8217;s when the LED version comes in, which we only now carry LED. And also we do offer shields at one time cost to the customer, in this case that would be your homeowners association. So I would suggest reaching out to them. Any official request will need to be made on their lighting account and by someone listed on the HOA board or something. Any further question, please contact customer service at 1-800-700 8744. Thank you so much, and you have a great day, bye-bye.&#8221;</p>
<p>January 2, 2023, response from J.R. via e-mail:<br />
&#8220;Hello Nancy,<br />
I’m still on vacation until tomorrow, but your question intrigued me, so I thought to answer to the best of my ability.<br />
Technology for lighting moves on, and LEDs are cost saving for the amount of power they consume over older lighting elements.  As more of your lights go out and replaced with LEDs, it seems like just a matter of time before they all are changed.<br />
All that said, the board would need to vote to extend additional funds for any ‘add-ons’ as described in the reply from Duke Energy.   I’ll need to contact them about this to determine the cost involved.<br />
Happy New Year,<br />
J.R.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Georges Haddad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georges Haddad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2023 22:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Brian,
Thanks for your comment and feedback.  I&#039;d like to point out that the poll is the result of several weeks of analysis for Duke Energy&#039;s invoices and their breakdown; in addition to various email exchanges and telephone calls with Duke Energy&#039;s representative.  It is true that in familiar language we &quot;rent&quot; those poles.  But Duke Energy&#039;s terminology is different.  The electric company says, &quot;we are making lights available to you similar to making electric current to your home, we do not rent or lease&quot;!  Therefore, we cannot buy the poles, for instance. Putting aside complex economic and legal terminology, yes, I noticed that the streetlights expense is a major expense in our budget, and this is the reason why I was determined to lead discussion with Duke Energy to reduce the cost.  Because of Duke Energy&#039;s business model and its monopoly in our area, unfortunately there are not many options available to save electricity.  Our best bet is to adopt LED lights instead of the existent lights with vapor to alleviate the cost by reducing the consumption. Hope the above helps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,<br />
Thanks for your comment and feedback.  I&#8217;d like to point out that the poll is the result of several weeks of analysis for Duke Energy&#8217;s invoices and their breakdown; in addition to various email exchanges and telephone calls with Duke Energy&#8217;s representative.  It is true that in familiar language we &#8220;rent&#8221; those poles.  But Duke Energy&#8217;s terminology is different.  The electric company says, &#8220;we are making lights available to you similar to making electric current to your home, we do not rent or lease&#8221;!  Therefore, we cannot buy the poles, for instance. Putting aside complex economic and legal terminology, yes, I noticed that the streetlights expense is a major expense in our budget, and this is the reason why I was determined to lead discussion with Duke Energy to reduce the cost.  Because of Duke Energy&#8217;s business model and its monopoly in our area, unfortunately there are not many options available to save electricity.  Our best bet is to adopt LED lights instead of the existent lights with vapor to alleviate the cost by reducing the consumption. Hope the above helps.</p>
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